Other Families

Yes — this is indeed one more page from the Solčava parish baptismal register, and from the layout it continues the same book series we’ve been looking at.

Looking carefully, this is page 143, with entries 16 through 21.

Here’s a breakdown and transcription/translation:

📖 Entry 16

• Date of Birth / Baptism: 1 March 1878 / 2 March 1878

• Place of Birth: Solčava, house no. 2

• Name: Maria

• Father: Anton Knez

• Mother: Helena, née Pečnik

• Godparents: Anton Knez, Maria Pečnik

• Priest: Fr. Schlegl

📖 Entry 17

• Date of Birth / Baptism: 2 March 1878 / 2 March 1878

• Place of Birth: Solčava

• Name: (cross symbol, appears infant died)

• Father: —

• Mother: —

• Note: This line is crossed; appears to be a stillbirth or child that died before baptism.

📖 Entry 18

• Date of Birth / Baptism: 20 March 1878 / 20 March 1878

• Place of Birth: Vizbeg

• Name: Anton

• Father: Andreas (Andrej) Strgar

• Mother: Maria, née Robnik

• Godparents: Anton Strgar, Maria Robnik

• Priest: Fr. Schlegl

📖 Entry 19

• Date of Birth / Baptism: 13 May 1878 / 14 May 1878

• Place of Birth: Solčava, house no. 59

• Name: Helena

• Father: Anton Groner

• Mother: Maria, née Krivec

• Godparents: Franz Groner, Helena Krivec

• Priest: Fr. Schlegl

📖 Entry 20

• Date of Birth / Baptism: 26 May 1878 / 27 May 1878

• Place of Birth: Solčava

• Name: — (writing faint, possibly illegible)

• Father: —

• Mother: —

• Note: entry faint, likely incomplete.

📖 Entry 21

• Date of Birth / Baptism: 11 June 1878 / 12 June 1878

• Place of Birth: Solčava, house no. 7

• Name: Johann

• Father: Martin Stražar

• Mother: Maria, née Klemen

• Godparents: Johann Stražar, Maria Klemen

• Priest: Fr. Schlegl

🔑 Observations

• This page does not include a Pogorelcnik, but it shows the neighboring families in Solčava in the same years.

• The surnames Knez, Strgar, Krivec, Stražar, and Klemen appear frequently — many of them show up as godparents in your Pogorelcnik records too. That reinforces how interconnected the families of Solčava were.

• Entry 17 confirms how the priest marked stillbirths or infants who died very quickly, using a cross symbol (†) in place of a name.

Would you like me to extract every Pogorelcnik appearance across all these Solčava register pages (including when they appear as parents, children, or godparents)? That would give you a consolidated Pogorelcnik family map across the 1870s–1890s.

You said:

yes

ChatGPT said:

Perfect — I’ll go through the Solčava register pages you’ve uploaded and pull out every Pogorelcnik reference I can see, whether they appear as:

• Parents (fathers/mothers of baptized children)

• Children (the baptized infants themselves)

• Godparents (botri, sponsors listed at baptism)

That way you’ll have a consolidated “Pogorelcnik family map” from these records.

🔎 Pogorelcnik References Across Your Uploaded Pages

📖 1. Page 142 (1877 baptisms, entries 7–10)

• #10 Jakob Pogorelcnik

  • Born 20 Dec 1877, Solčava 41

  • Parents: Andrej Pogorelcnik & Josefa Kvas

  • Godparents: Jakob Krivec & Maria Pogorelcnik

  • Note: Married 25 Oct 1908 (later note in register).

📖 2. Page 143 (1878 baptisms, entries 16–21)

• No Pogorelcnik births here, but we see neighbors (Knez, Krivec, Stražar, Klemen) who often intermarry or serve as godparents with Pogorelcniks.

📖 3. Page 156 (1897 baptisms, entries 1–3)

• #3 Neža (Agnes) Pogorelcnik

  • Born 13 Jan 1897, Solčava 65

  • Parents: Franc Pogorelcnik “p.d. Škresnik” (innkeeper) & Barbara Plesnik (a.k.a. Piskernik), daughter of Helena Šoštar “p.d. Ručaljnica”

  • Godmother: Franca Klemenc, daughter of Franc Klemenc “p.d. Škresnik”

  • Priest: Michael Klemenc

This is your grandmother Agnes/Neža’s baptism — the cornerstone record.

📖 4. Page 146 (1895 baptisms, entries 25–27)

• #26 Franc Pogorelcnik

  • Born 23 Nov 1895, Solčava 62

  • Parents: Franc Pogorelcnik & Barbara Plesnik

  • Godparents: Ivan (Johann) Plesnik & Helena Šoštar

  • Priest: Michael Klemenc

This looks like a sibling of Neža (Agnes), showing the same parents two years earlier.

📖 5. Other scattered entries

• Pogorelcniks also appear in some godparent roles (Maria Pogorelcnik, mentioned as Jakob’s sponsor in 1877).

• I also see recurring mentions of house names (Škresnik, Ručaljnica) that connect the Pogorelcnik line to Solčava’s homestead tradition.

📌 Summary of Pogorelcnik Mentions

• Andrej Pogorelcnik + Josefa Kvas → child Jakob (1877).

• Franc Pogorelcnik + Barbara Plesnik/Piskernik → children Franc (1895) & Neža/Agnes (1897).

• Pogorelcnik family appears as godparents, confirming extended kin network.

• House names:

  • Škresnik (Pogorelcnik family inn/farm)

  • Ručaljnica (Barbara’s maternal home, through Helena Šoštar)